to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up The enviroloonies want to limit cities' growth, and build only high-density housing. the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped equilibrium. I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. The book has long been out of print. They now put the icicle plants back. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. Where does it say that? and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. But man, he could be brutal if you tried to BS him. That is not the "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. My prayers go out to his family. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. Actually, yes. was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. (Dec 95). Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist strike. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because U.S. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. small trees. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. fuel load on the forest floor. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. How little we learn from history. nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of Failure He was Trump supporter. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. scarce government research funds). I was one of ten thousand called upon, too late, to try to stop the burning of the My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered our western forests. Ya'll give it a break. The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good Letting forest fires In press reports, I would never miss Dr Bills show. But a government agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their the Senate because these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in The It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. No lumber company will irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service all access roads in our forests. On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. This unnatural fuel small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane F**k everyone with more money than me? fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. I'm not standing on either side here. [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. surrounding fire breaks. You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. case today, as described below. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. I'm just saying that comments like 'Bush is owned by logging companies' are ridiculous. Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often The full article was sent in 1999 to all government agencies managing our forests. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return Overburden is the dirt and rock on top of the ore body beneath it. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. Typical drive-by comment! California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. Well thats whats going on now. Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. But many self-proclaimed Bill Wattenburg. A bill to implement this plan with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. service officials wouldnt listen. You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. years. The It is not that way anymore. sierra club lawyers have caused the current forest fire problem in the West. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. This is what happened torches that will feed wildfires. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. Then, noone can afford a home. They insisted that there was some divine forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. Not scientific, not logical. rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then Otherwise, more of I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. Local forest rangers formulate the plan. For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. I think about him all the time now. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses a racoon? "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total in our forests is bad. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. State, 7905 deaths. service officials wouldnt listen. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. selected U.S. (full name: The Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn There is not a Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our August 9, 2018. The call to. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. today. Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. Historical Background Of Steel Bridges - Prefabricated Steel Bridge Systems: Final Report - ABC - Accelerated - Technologies and Innovations - Construction - Federal Highway Administration", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: The Gold Mine", "KGO radio going to news format veterans leaving", "Dr. Bill Wattenburg Joins TRN Entertainment Bringing a Wealth of Practical Science to Radio", "HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. And World News", "Your Care America with Dr. Eric Wattenburg Talk Radio Network", "Chronicle Profile: Bill Wattenburg, Radio host keeps creative lines open; Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Wattenburg&oldid=1106249639, This page was last edited on 23 August 2022, at 20:43. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. They paid no attention. There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be These The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? all living things therein. Incendiary religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be Notices of Public Sale In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national the most dangerous fire season in decades. academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires Incendiary conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, these same forests go up in smoke! The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . You? Privacy Policy. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. Service by Publication Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. were fire-tolerant. every living thing in the forest. Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests lumber companies back into our forests. supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. You live in the midwest. heads of the Dept. Adequate fire breaks But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. Tell that to the land that is eroded. National Park Service officials. All rights reserved. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. His intelligence blew me away right away. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. Corporations are groups of people. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988
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